Part of Orange Lawn Tennis Club for sale? archived
Jun 14, 2013 at 12:35pm
Wow...I hadn't realized this was in play..filling in part of the center of a "superblock", on land with little or no road frontage is indeed likely to lead to a battle (if they need any variances to move forward.
How did that plot come to have that zoning, I wonder.
How did that plot come to have that zoning, I wonder.
That zoning dates back to the original lawsuit over the quarry back in the 90s. As part if the settlement, the quarry was zoned as PRC-A and Orange Lawn was PRC-B.
It permits single-family dwellings, townhouses, flats, as well as public parks, playgrounds and private recreation facilities. The zone permits a residential density of up to 6.6 units per acre and requires that 20% of the units consist of affordable housing.
Source: http://southorange.org/development/SmartGrowthPlan6-12/FullPlan6-12.pdf
It permits single-family dwellings, townhouses, flats, as well as public parks, playgrounds and private recreation facilities. The zone permits a residential density of up to 6.6 units per acre and requires that 20% of the units consist of affordable housing.
Source: http://southorange.org/development/SmartGrowthPlan6-12/FullPlan6-12.pdf
Honestly, if it's tasteful and fits in with the character of the neighborhood, I say bring on the ratables.
Somethingz_Fishy said:
Honestly, if it's tasteful and fits in with the character of the neighborhood, I say bring on the ratables.
I agree except they well get a pilot. Everyone new gets a pilot in this town.
I'm sure that Orange Lawn & Tennis Club is struggling, much like every other country club right now, and may need this transaction to remain solvent for the long term.
Those who want to stop this development, may want to join, or least drop in for dinner.
Those who want to stop this development, may want to join, or least drop in for dinner.
Jun 15, 2013 at 7:46am Edited
20% must be "affordable housing." I wonder exactly what the definition is?
This:
"Both State and Federal rules target assistance to low- and moderate-income households. Low-income households are defined as those with income at or below 50 percent of median family income for the county where the housing is located. Moderate-income households earn between 50 and 80 percent of median family income. Some Federal programs focus aid on households with “very low” income. This means at or below 30 percent of median county income. Some focus on households at or below 60 percent of median county income, which is why these figures sometimes appear on the Federal income guidelines."
http://www.state.nj.us/dca/divisions/codes/publications/guide.html
"Both State and Federal rules target assistance to low- and moderate-income households. Low-income households are defined as those with income at or below 50 percent of median family income for the county where the housing is located. Moderate-income households earn between 50 and 80 percent of median family income. Some Federal programs focus aid on households with “very low” income. This means at or below 30 percent of median county income. Some focus on households at or below 60 percent of median county income, which is why these figures sometimes appear on the Federal income guidelines."
http://www.state.nj.us/dca/divisions/codes/publications/guide.html
Are non-members allowed to drop in for dinner? I've always wanted to check that place out, but I'm not a tennis club kind of guy.shickson said:
Those who want to stop this development, may want to join, or least drop in for dinner.
Very little additional info from Patch: http://southorange.patch.com/articles/report-part-of-orange-lawn-tennis-club-for-sale
max_weisenfeld said:
This:
"Both State and Federal rules target assistance to low- and moderate-income households. Low-income households are defined as those with income at or below 50 percent of median family income for the county where the housing is located. Moderate-income households earn between 50 and 80 percent of median family income. Some Federal programs focus aid on households with “very low” income. This means at or below 30 percent of median county income. Some focus on households at or below 60 percent of median county income, which is why these figures sometimes appear on the Federal income guidelines."
http://www.state.nj.us/dca/divisions/codes/publications/guide.html
So where is the affordable housing at the quarry development??? I have been there for kid drop offs etc.... It consists of high end condos.
shell2 said:
So where is the affordable housing at the quarry development??? I have been there for kid drop offs etc.... It consists of high end condos.
As part of the Settlement Agreement in the 1990s a "regional contribution agreement'" was established which provided for the affordable housing to be created in a neighboring municipality.
Somethingz_Fishy said:
Honestly, if it's tasteful and fits in with the character of the neighborhood, I say bring on the ratables.
Agreed, sans PILOT. This is prime location for high end townhouses / condos for local empty nesters. I don't see any reason why we should have to incentivize development here.
LP said:
So, can any long timer tell me what the quarry lawsuit was about?
The full history is posted online at http://mysite.verizon.net/preserveso/history.htm
It wouldn't help with ratables (then again, residential development won't help much with the ratables, if it leads to increases the number of students attending public schools), but the Open Space tax levy was created to give the Village options when it came to acquiring lands for public use. The Orange Lawn site was part of an early, extended list of potential uses, if it came to market. In the past, the state has offered companion grants for land acquisition, although those might be harder to come by these days. It would be worth asking whether Open Space funds are better applied preserving open space (like Orange Lawn) or weeding the Little Rahway River.
I'm sure the people who live around Orange Lawn will be thrilled, not only with all the noise, but with what it will do to property values!
brianoleary said:
It wouldn't help with ratables (then again, residential development won't help much with the ratables, if it leads to increases the number of students attending public schools), but the Open Space tax levy was created to give the Village options when it came to acquiring lands for public use. The Orange Lawn site was part of an early, extended list of potential uses, if it came to market. In the past, the state has offered companion grants for land acquisition, although those might be harder to come by these days. It would be worth asking whether Open Space funds are better applied preserving open space (like Orange Lawn) or weeding the Little Rahway River.
Why would new development, sans pilot, help with ratables? Doesn't it expand the tax base?
According to other threads, properties outside the redevelopment zone can not be given a PILOT.
The Smart Growth Plan of 2007 addressed the appropriate development of open space. Please read page 25; Marylawn is indicated as well.
http://southorange.org/development/SmartGrowthPlan6-12/FullPlan6-12.pdf
http://southorange.org/development/SmartGrowthPlan6-12/FullPlan6-12.pdf
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