Trump - International Ramifications

He is not sworn in yet, but his statements that Canada should become part of the US, and that he can't rule out using military force to gain control over the Panama Canal and Greenland, has already changed the tenor in Europe & Russia.

Putin now feels justified in his grab for Ukraine, and Russian bloggers are now predicting that Estonia, Finland & Poland are next!


tomcat said:

He is not sworn in yet, but his statements that Canada should become part of the US, and that he can't rule out using military force to gain control over the Panama Canal and Greenland, has already changed the tenor in Europe & Russia.

Putin now feels justified in his grab for Ukraine, and Russian bloggers are now predicting that Estonia, Finland & Poland are next!

Putin is not grabbing Ukraine. He’s pushing back on NATO expansion. Those bloggers are just spewing crap. Trump is also probably spewing crap just to be provocative or to be provocative as a starting point for new policies beneficial to the US. He seems to have trolled Trudeau to resignation.

Do you think we can get Greenland? Might be kind of cool. 


tomcat said:
Putin now feels justified in his grab for Ukraine, and Russian bloggers are now predicting that Estonia, Finland & Poland are next!

You just had to poke the bear, didn’t you?   cheese


nan said:

Putin is not grabbing Ukraine. He’s pushing back on NATO expansion. Those bloggers are just spewing crap. Trump is also probably spewing crap just to be provocative or to be provocative as a starting point for new policies beneficial to the US. He seems to have trolled Trudeau to resignation.

Do you think we can get Greenland? Might be kind of cool. 

I've been away for a bit but it's good to see that you are still crazy after all these years.

cheese


GoSlugs said:

I've been away for a bit but it's good to see that you are still crazy after all these years.

cheese

My mental heath is not the problem in this thread. 


nan said:

My mental heath is not the problem in this thread. 

This thread is too new to judge, but your mental health is absolutely the issue in a number of other threads. Get help.


Dennis_Seelbach said:

This thread is too new to judge, but your mental health is absolutely the issue in a number of other threads. Get help.

I love you too, Dennis. 


Trump should give up the plan for a Bitcoin reserve, and focus on seizing Canada’s strategic maple syrup reserve. 


nan said:

I love you too, Dennis. 

That's a personal attack if I ever saw one.


nan said:


Putin is not grabbing Ukraine. He’s pushing back on NATO expansion. 

Seriously?

What would have happened if Russian troops had successfully taken control of Kyiv in the first days of the war?  Would Russia have given control back to Ukrainians?  


GoSlugs said:

nan said:

Putin is not grabbing Ukraine. He’s pushing back on NATO expansion. Those bloggers are just spewing crap. Trump is also probably spewing crap just to be provocative or to be provocative as a starting point for new policies beneficial to the US. He seems to have trolled Trudeau to resignation.

Do you think we can get Greenland? Might be kind of cool. 

I've been away for a bit but it's good to see that you are still crazy after all these years.

cheese

What a ****. 

cheese


terp said:

drummerboy said:

the OP of this reddit thread has an interesting take

Trump's latest Canada, Panama canal and Greenland agenda is aimed to destroy taboo of territorial integrity, international respect for UN charter and international law so Russian annexations in Ukraine can be justified.

If by interesting you mean really stupid, you have nailed it. 

no, what's really stupid is trump blathering on about this.


drummerboy said:

the OP of this reddit thread has an interesting take

Trump's latest Canada, Panama canal and Greenland agenda is aimed to destroy taboo of territorial integrity, international respect for UN charter and international law so Russian annexations in Ukraine can be justified.

There is no way to put a positive spin on Trump's statements.  I realize that we have an interest in preventing the Chinese from gaining a lot of influence over Greenland or Panama, but threatening allies is not a good strategy.


tjohn said:

drummerboy said:

the OP of this reddit thread has an interesting take

Trump's latest Canada, Panama canal and Greenland agenda is aimed to destroy taboo of territorial integrity, international respect for UN charter and international law so Russian annexations in Ukraine can be justified.

There is no way to put a positive spin on Trump's statements.  I realize that we have an interest in preventing the Chinese from gaining a lot of influence over Greenland or Panama, but threatening allies is not a good strategy.

from what I've read Panama turned towards China during Trump v1, so that was a bit of a foul up for him.


drummerboy said:

tjohn said:

drummerboy said:

the OP of this reddit thread has an interesting take

Trump's latest Canada, Panama canal and Greenland agenda is aimed to destroy taboo of territorial integrity, international respect for UN charter and international law so Russian annexations in Ukraine can be justified.

There is no way to put a positive spin on Trump's statements.  I realize that we have an interest in preventing the Chinese from gaining a lot of influence over Greenland or Panama, but threatening allies is not a good strategy.

from what I've read Panama turned towards China during Trump v1, so that was a bit of a foul up for him.

Maybe it is just about Trump.

Trump Organization Accused of Tax Evasion in Panama: What We Know - Newsweek


tjohn said:

Maybe it is just about Trump.

Trump Organization Accused of Tax Evasion in Panama: What We Know - Newsweek

oh geez, is that right on the nose or what?  still tbd though, i suppose.


terp said:

drummerboy said:

the OP of this reddit thread has an interesting take

Trump's latest Canada, Panama canal and Greenland agenda is aimed to destroy taboo of territorial integrity, international respect for UN charter and international law so Russian annexations in Ukraine can be justified.

If by interesting you mean really stupid, you have nailed it. 

there's something way more stupid than what I said in my last post. the epitome of stupid is the fact that we are forced to speculate on the utter insanity uttered by our addled president-in-waiting.




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