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nan said:

He's trying to broker a peace deal in Ukraine--a war that is lost and cannot be won.  That's one thing Trump is doing right.  He's trying to save lives there. 

Another thing Trump did right was close down USAID/NED--those were regime change operations pretending to be charities.

I also like RFK,Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard and look forward to what changes they make to corrupt agencies.

--BUT--

I generally don't like Trump, did not vote for him,  and I don't like how he's getting rid of some government agencies such as the Consumer Protection Agency and the Department of Education.  I don't like how he's dumping all these middle class jobs without thought and all the pain that is causing. 

I don't see the value of those tariffs either and his new tax plan seems highly questionable. 

---SO--

I don't see the "betrayal" you are talking about.  I see a president who has some unpopular policies.  I won't be joining your protest because I support some of things Trump is doing, but I wish you well.  I would suggest you focus more specifically on what he is doing that you feel is a betrayal and not just the usual hysteria about Trump being treasonous or crazy.  

I’m not going to get in a debate with you. Suffice it to say that he had no intention to broke a peace agreement. His setup yesterday was to humiliate Zelensky and then ask him to leave.

nan said:

Most people don't understand it because they believe the lies they have been told about this war.  They think the Ukrainians can win.  They think Zelensky is Churchill.  They think Trump talking to the Russians is treason and even that he might be some kind of Russian agent.

None of that is true.  The Ukrainians cannot win this war.  Zelensky is a  used up anti-democratic proxy who let his country be used and destroyed (and who lied his butt off during that meeting).  And Russiagate was a hoax.  Trump (who IS an orange blowhole) wants to make a peace deal with the Russians and end this war which is the best strategy going forward. Showing the ugly side of US foreign policy out in the open may or may not be a good way to go.  

I get how if you don't know what's going on it looked like two mean thugs picking on this cute little green man but we are not children anymore. 

Your comments don't have much to do with American exceptionalism.

The way Zelensky was treated was a very low point in our history.  Regardless of one's stance on how to end the war against Ukraine, Trump's behavior was wrong and unhelpful.

The meeting...OMFG, what an embarrassment for the U.S. What a sick bully. There's no bottom. 

mtierney, what are the policies and practices that lead you to support DJT? I'll offer no rebuttal or comment. I just would like to know. 

The system we were watching for Saturday is passing far north of us

Before someone else does it …

The cherry on top?: “This will make great television.” You sick piece of siht.

GL2 said:

The meeting...OMFG, what an embarrassment for the U.S. What a sick bully. There's no bottom. 

I just posted elsewhere about the meeting. Same sentiment as yours. An embarrassment to us all. Makes me literally sick to my stomach. 

mtierney said:

Lindsey Graham has no shame. What occurred today was at deliberate attack by Vance in an attempt to be relevant. Trump piled on. In what form of diplomacy does a VP interrupt a discussion between 2 Presidents to instigate an argument. It felt scripted. Vance whined that Zelensky had campaigned for the opposing party. Then Trump dredged up complaints about Biden, Obama, Hunter, and the laptop. Old grievances when he couldn't get Zelensky to support his claims. But the appearance of two men in power attempting to humiliate a man fighting for his country against an aggressor, was tragic and embarrassing. Our Senator Cory Booker expresses it best.

Cory Booker

5h · We are Americans. We are the most powerful nation on the planet. What defines us is not our power to dominate the weak. What demonstrates our character is not our capacity to traumatize the afflicted. What speaks our truth is not how we taunt, deride or belittle the embattled, broken or battered. We are:The country of the Marshall Plan The nation of The Berlin Airlift The nation whose leader said, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.” We are at our best when we are resolute against evil — not when we kowtow to those who perpetrate it. We tell our truth when we defend the weak — not when we do it only if we get protection money. We are America when our leaders call the dictators dictators and those who fight to defend democracy against tyranny what they are: heroes. Donald Trump and JD Vance didn’t show strength today — they showed weakness. They belittled a giant and showed just how small they are. They have the most vaunted titles in the world: President and Vice President of The United States of America. But the title doesn’t make the man. And today both men brought shame to their titles. A weary warrior was before them. A beleaguered man who has lost thousands of his friends and comrades to the unjust and illegal aggression of an authoritarian leader. They showed no grace; no magnanimity of spirit; no diplomatic acumen. They were small bullies with big titles and they disrespected the history and legacy of the nation they lead. Today, Donald Trump acted more like Russia’s Putin than America’s President.

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