nan said:

He's trying to broker a peace deal in Ukraine--a war that is lost and cannot be won.  That's one thing Trump is doing right.  He's trying to save lives there. 

Another thing Trump did right was close down USAID/NED--those were regime change operations pretending to be charities.

I also like RFK,Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard and look forward to what changes they make to corrupt agencies.

--BUT--

I generally don't like Trump, did not vote for him,  and I don't like how he's getting rid of some government agencies such as the Consumer Protection Agency and the Department of Education.  I don't like how he's dumping all these middle class jobs without thought and all the pain that is causing. 

I don't see the value of those tariffs either and his new tax plan seems highly questionable. 

---SO--

I don't see the "betrayal" you are talking about.  I see a president who has some unpopular policies.  I won't be joining your protest because I support some of things Trump is doing, but I wish you well.  I would suggest you focus more specifically on what he is doing that you feel is a betrayal and not just the usual hysteria about Trump being treasonous or crazy.  

I’m not going to get in a debate with you. Suffice it to say that he had no intention to broke a peace agreement. His setup yesterday was to humiliate Zelensky and then ask him to leave.

nan said:

Most people don't understand it because they believe the lies they have been told about this war.  They think the Ukrainians can win.  They think Zelensky is Churchill.  They think Trump talking to the Russians is treason and even that he might be some kind of Russian agent.

None of that is true.  The Ukrainians cannot win this war.  Zelensky is a  used up anti-democratic proxy who let his country be used and destroyed (and who lied his butt off during that meeting).  And Russiagate was a hoax.  Trump (who IS an orange blowhole) wants to make a peace deal with the Russians and end this war which is the best strategy going forward. Showing the ugly side of US foreign policy out in the open may or may not be a good way to go.  

I get how if you don't know what's going on it looked like two mean thugs picking on this cute little green man but we are not children anymore. 

Your comments don't have much to do with American exceptionalism.

The way Zelensky was treated was a very low point in our history.  Regardless of one's stance on how to end the war against Ukraine, Trump's behavior was wrong and unhelpful.

mtierney, what are the policies and practices that lead you to support DJT? I'll offer no rebuttal or comment. I just would like to know. 

When America invoked (NATO) Article 5 after 9/11, almost whole world showed up — including Ukraine, a country not even in NATO.
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How quickly the USA forgets.
The only time NATO article 5 was invoked… was to HELP THE USA… yet trump cries poor us… everybody is using us.

RealityForAll said:

It appears 18 USC 202(c) does not define "Members of Congress" as employees for many purposes. See pics beliw.

When it comes to splitting hairs about the defintion of a federal employee, we can count on you to blindly land on Title 18, the criminal code, rather than Title 5, “Government Organization and Employees.” There, the definition of “Member of Congress” falls under Part III, which is titled “Employees.”

Before someone else does it …

Like Brody but was annoyed by his overly long "actory" acceptance speech.

nan said:

joanne said:

Just want to point out that Zelensky’s plain black no-suit was totally acceptable for his formal Court audience with King Charles III, who even hugged him. 

I thought the royal family was not supposed to be political. Fire them!

Charles welcomed the leader of another country. How is that political?

mtierney said:

A golden moment from the speech…

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-speech-congress-joint-session/card/trump-designates-child-as-secret-service-member-in-touching-moment-LsArnTjY6nHPvusYyBgd

Trump is so touched by that child's fight against childhood cancer that he cut funding for medical research to fight childhood cancer.

Funding for Childhood Cancer Research Cut From U.S. Spending Bill - Pediatric Cancer Research Foundation

nan said:

Oh, look!!!!  

RFK Jr. urges people to get vaccinated amid deadly Texas outbreak

Here is Kennedy’s opinion piece:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/robert-f-kennedy-jr-measles-outbreak-call-action-all-us

Here is the urging part:

All parents should consult with their healthcare providers to understand their options to get the MMR vaccine. The decision to vaccinate is a personal one. Vaccines not only protect individual children from measles, but also contribute to community immunity, protecting those who are unable to be vaccinated due to medical reasons.